UCAS International Advisor’s Conference
June 11-12, 2015
DAY 1
Session 1:
Making an application to the Universities of Oxford & Cambridge
- These uni’s are separate from the others because the application process is different/earlier
- Both uni’s are rated top 2 in UK, top 3 in Europe, top 5 in the World
- Both uni’s have a LONG history of admitting intl students
- NO broad base (i.e. lib arts) on any course; students MUST be absolutely committed to the programme
- DON’T apply/come for the:
- Brand name
- Location
- beauty
- history
- tv shows & movies
- employability
- DO apply/come for the:
- ACADEMICS (tiny classes)
- world-class teaching tutorials
- facilities
- college structure
- challenging yet supportive; SUPER individualized
- intl populations: Oxford – 17%; Cambridge – 19% NO quotas, only academics
- Medicine: Oxford has 14 places for non-UK/EU students; Cambridge has space for 15
- At OxBridge, 5 applicants per place, i.e. 20% success rate would be assumed, BUT because more than 50% of intl applicants apply to only 5 courses, admission ratio is actually 12-13%
- Most popular courses for intl applicants: medicine, law, engineering, economics, PPE
- Competition for these is keen and can be as much as 16 applicants per seat!
- Oxford’s Econ & Mgmt course is a pure maths course with a bit more practical application
- Being an open applicant (for colleges) will NEVER disadvantage your application chances
- Oxford admissions: more exams-focused, most taken at test center in November
- Cambridge:
- extra paperwork (online)
- UK students: SAQ
- Intl students: COPA
- Marked written work from school curricula helps to provide content for interview
- Interviews:
- Oxford – December
- Cambridge – Sept to Dec.
- Decisions out by end of January to allow for moderation and intercollegiate assignments
- Admission criteria (with varying importance at each uni):
- Pre-16 academic achievements
- Post-16 academic predictions
- Personal statement (PS)
- References
- Interview
- Written work and/or adm tests
- PS is used as the starting point for the interview…
- Use 80% on ACADEMIC interests! “we love geeks”
- Interest, excitement, engagement
- Inspiration from current curriculum
- Evidence of going over & above super-curricular
- Remaining 20% is for everything else
- Use 80% on ACADEMIC interests! “we love geeks”
- Cambridge: about 16,500 applicants for 3,400 offers for 3,300 final seats
- Oxford: about 18,000 applicants for 3,500 offers for 3,200 seats
- Stats by country are available online!
- Counsellor’s reference:
- 10% about school, include link to profile
- 80% on academic achievement including subject-specific commentary
- final 10% could be final persuasive comments or (as necessary) any mitigating circumstances
- Oxford tests: benchmark across the board to help as applicant pool is so diverse in terms of qualifications
- Past papers and mark schemes on the Oxford site
- Encourage students to do exams under timed conditions
- Oxford interview: 60% will be interviewed… limited to about 3 per place
- Cambridge interview: 80% interviewed
- Generally for both universities: aptitude and suitability is the rationale for the conversation
- Asking questions the kids don’t know answers to
- Practice for what you would be doing at the university
- Not about the “right” answer… it IS about the problem-solving style
- “Can you do the basics before you do the complicated bits?”
- i.e. examine the test, consider the evidence, etc
- “Can you do the basics before you do the complicated bits?”
- Don’t use the prep agencies the universities offer help, better & cheaper!
- How do advisors guide students to choose between the two universities?
- COURSE choices: names, specifics, modules
- In the humanities: similar names, poss different approaches
- In the social sciences: very different options/names
- In the Sciences
- at Cambridge, students study sciences together, specialize as you go along, but starting with generalization (both in sciences as well as in engineering)
- at Oxford, students study within a specific area from day 1
- COPA may be changing to limit the redundancies
- COPA may also have an earlier deadline (compared to Oct. 15) in the future